TOO LENGTHY A RESPONSE TO MY GLENN BECK POST TO PUT UNDER COMMENTS

I received the following comment to my Glenn Beck post

http://factsforreality.blogspot.com/2009/09/glenn-becks-week-of-showing-quotes.html

and, because my response was too long, I decided to do a new post including the comment and my response.


Tom Degan's Daily Rant said...
Not since Joe McCarthy shuffled off this mortal coil in 1957 has anyone made a career by accusing people of being communists. Glenn Beck has resurrected the practice. Not only has he found a cabal of secret communists, he has uncovered an entire communist corporation chock full of commies. The name of this company, you may ask?

THE NATIONAL BROADCASTING COMPANY!

You heard me right, boys and girls. The network that gave us Uncle Miltie and Ma Perkins has apparently been secretly sending subliminal messages endorsing Marxist doctrine since it was formed in 1926. This would make perfect sense to me. Every time I watched the Rockford Files I had an unexplainable desire to read Das Kapital. But seriously, folks. Twenty years after the fall of the Soviet Union, red baiting not only seems silly, it's also kind of nuts. It's not-at-all surprising that an organization would give this idiot a forum (after all, he's on FOX Noise). What's really stunning is the fact that his ratings are relatively high and that so many Americans take his word as gospel.

All kidding aside, half-witted ideologues are a dime a dozen. What separates Glenn Beck from his peers is the fact that he is doing some serious damage to the country he professes to love so much. For all of the comparisons to the Nazis he likes to make with regard to Liberals, Beck's program has much in common with Adolf Hitler's 1923 screed, Mein Kampf. Eighty-six years ago, Hitler attempted to arouse the anger of his fellow Germans by spouting half truths and utter nonsense - exactly what Glenn Beck is doing in 2009. So much of the insane dialogue that has been spewed forth at these Town Hall meetings across the country in recent weeks might have been lifted straight from a transcript of any of Beck's programs.

Beck and his twisted ilk have done the seemingly impossible. They have deflected the blame for America's current economic distress toward Barack Obama. An incredible feat when you take into consideration the fact that the President is one of the few people in government today whose guilt in the matter is almost nil. They have also let loose with a vengeance the very worst angels of the American nature. Opening this Pandora's box was relatively easy. Closing it might prove to be a bit of a problem.

Deep in their hearts
They do believe
That they shall undermine someday....

http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
September


Thank you for the comment on my writing. It is important and a pleasure to meet someone who thinks differently and test our ability to rationally discuss what is real. I need to make it very clear that my definitions offered on my website factsforreality.net can apply either way. Unlike some people with whom I discuss politics I am not absolutely sure of my position, but knowledgeable enough to explore what I believe and look for what is real. I also, in my rough drafts of my letters to my grandchildren asking them, How do you like the country which we left you?” suggest that I hope that you find that the other side was right and that I was just a paranoid old fool.

Beck’s presentation started with Obama campaigning and telling us to judge him by the company he keeps. He named respected people of consequence including Warren Buffett who is one of my heroes because in spite of his Democrat affiliation places capital with endeavors which creates jobs which pay taxable wages rather than takes from the productive to give to others. Once the election was over, Obama surrounded himself with a group of czars who are not accountable to anyone. These are the people he truly associates with and employs to assist him in changing America. Beck presented quotes and clips of these people and let us see them describing their views. Van Jones is the one who proclaimed himself a communist. Several of the others hold unconventional views, but did not proclaim themselves communists. I would therefore question your analysis that Beck has uncovered a communist corporation.

What I saw was a group of people with views far different from those which I feel are good for our country. I see a practical side to some of the healthcare proposal and agree that wasting money on old people and the very young is impractical – I just have a problem with my truly liberal compassionate side because it doesn’t feel good. I also agree with Charles Krauthammer’s analysis that the bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. I started out as a dishwasher, federal civil servant at an awesome facility, entrepreneur with tears in my eyes one day when I pulled up to a hamburger stand and found out I couldn’t afford a hamburger. I worked in the low income areas during the Great Society and saw the result which Thomas Sowell describes as a failure. I went broke providing low income housing after being very successful because I was helped by a government Mod 8 Rehab program and the bureaucrat made me provide full time security for 18 buildings when I only had 13 as well as holding back money until I complied with unreasonable demands.

I know how well and how poorly the government can work. Humans sometimes excel and sometimes they are parasites. Private enterprise will sort the non producers out, but the government protects them. Tell me how more government can possibly do better than a reasonably regulated private enterprise system where the percentage of the GDP spent on overhead = government and public programs excluding private contractors is kept low. California had been warned about this forever by McClintock and they didn’t listen. It didn’t happen suddenly with no idea that it was coming. LaLaLand will exist until we run out of time to deny reality.

Unlike some of the competitors, Beck asks his viewers to question what he shows us and does not proclaim that he is right. The difference between rape and making love is salesmanship. His packaging is great because by telling us to question, some of us will not. There is a very active group out there and if there were someone who challenged Beck factually instead of emotionally, that would make for an interesting battle of the intellects. I am open to a link where more than the typical Alinsky strategy is employed to discredit Beck’s information. What I see tells me that the liberals are stumbling because the Alinsky strategy has been picked up by the conservative movement and TRUTH substituted for deceit and deception. The American people are not totally stupid regardless of Michael Moore and Bill Mahr observations.

One example so that I remain fact based to some extent is the Stimulus Bill had to be passed without time to review it because of the impending doom and the Republicans were given hardcopy hours before the vote which makes me wonder how much we are paying scribes on typewriters or was the network down? It was for targeted creation of jobs to prevent unemployment going over 8%. We are in September and less than 10% has been put out. Unemployment has been in the nine percent range. George Soros took $140,000,000.00 of Stimulus money and $35,000,000.00 of his money to produce an article with a headline Back to school spree: Billionaire, feds give out $175M to aid neediest students around the state - casual glance shows what a generous man Soros is – where did the undistributed portion go?

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/08/12/2009-08-12_billionaire_feds_give_out_175m_to_aid_neediest_students_around_the_state_its_fre.html#ixzz0QMal8ZJV

or

the US is going to lend $2 billion to $10 billion to Petrobas to back Brazilian oil exploration after George Soros invests in Petrobas

Soros Hedge Fund Bought Petrobras Stake Worth $811 Million

The Wall Street Journal reported that the Obama administration will invest $2 billion (or more) in drilling off the shores of Brazil, of all places. The left does all they can to keep us from exploring off our own shores. Yet we’re suddenly investing $2 billion – that we don’t have – in a Brazilian oil company?
Soros-Funded Democratic Idea Factory Becomes Obama Policy Font which is the Center for American Progress headed by John Podesta
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aF7fB1PF0NPg

The administration will not allow what Sarah Palin suggested in August of 2008 to help America gain energy independence, stimulate the economy and better national security – see http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2008&month=09

But they will fund an oil venture which has awesome leverage and probably no recourse for Soros because the US is funding money which we don’t have and could use here to do something productive in our country.

Regarding Obama’s lack of participation in the creation of the financial debacle, I would remind you that when Nancy Pelosi became speaker of the House in 2006, she proclaimed, “Now that we control congress, watch what we can do.” The house is the creator of the budget and they had an ally in the borrow and spend Bush. Look at what they did! Obama received money from FannieMae/FreddieMac and ACORN pushing for loose lending practices helped create the financial disaster which is not being investigated that I know of and the news media has not publicized the recent deficit that much. A few clips showing the timeline to disaster are at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM


What am I missing about these facts that should make me hope that our country keeps going in the direction that the administration wants to take us. It seems to me we are headed for a cliff and no one was putting on the brakes until some complacent, fat, dumb and happy Americans said, “Holy Smokes! We had better do something!!!!”

Show me where my facts are not real or give me something more than the Alinsky style rhetoric. The REAL American Patriot Army has stood up and we don’t want the government taking our money because we are too stupid and incompetent to take care of ourselves.

The SEIU ran a full page ad in a local paper proclaiming Arnold Schwarzenneger broke his promise. Guess what? When Arnie couldn’t get the legislature to do what was right for California and correct its course, he took several referendums to the people and the unions borrowed against pension funds to mount an incredible campaign. They brought the super hero to his knees and kept the liberal legislature in power. Now they are whining that what they created can’t afford to keep them full time and they need to be furloughed. Do liberals require drugs or do they have a natural disconnect with reality?

GLENN BECK'S WEEK OF SHOWING QUOTES, DISCUSSING AND ASKING THE WHITEHOUSE QUESTIONS DID WHAT?

I did a challenge in a previous blog ALINSKY VERSES BECK - WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET CLOSER TO THE TRUTH WHOSE SIDE IS TRUTH ON?HOW CAN WE DETERMINE IT?



http://factsforreality.blogspot.com/2009/08/alinsky-verses-beck-we-have-opportunity.html

Beck presented clips of recordings and quotes and discussed the czars which have existed to a lesser extent since FDR, if my memory serves me. The writings, quotes, and clips from speeches seem questionable for someone in a high position with no accountabilty except to the President. Beck had a list of the czars and a description which can be seen at



http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/29391/?ck=1

Glenn presents facts, has discussions and lists questions. If there were misinformation, these could be dealt with in a presentation which would discredit him. The attack is an indication of the validity of his program's information and an affirmation of its value. Obama asked us to judge him by those who he associates with and he named people like Warren Buffett during the campaign. He then surrounded himself with czars which several conservative talkers had been warning the American voter about during the campaign. The fact that he would campaign with a list of advisors who make him look like a reasonable choice and then create a group of people with radical views who are only accountable to him should call attention to the need for more scrutiny of what he really wants to do with America.

There are many claims about ACORN and AmeriCorp receiving taxpayer money and using it for promoting the acquisition of power by this administration and its army manned by these organizations. IG Walpin was dismissed when he uncovered corruption at a high level. A lot of people would like a little more transparancy under the pre-Orwellian definition.

The questions which Glenn Beck posed for the Whitehouse are viewable at

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/29631/?ck=1

Glenn Beck: Reasonable questions for unreasonable times

August 28, 2009 - 16:28 ET

All this week we are asking questions; I may not have the answers, but power left unchecked can turn very ugly, very rapidly. So it's vital that we all question with boldness, hold to the truth and speak without fear.
You need to start asking questions:

Day 4
- Why do we need a civilian force?
- Who is posing a threat to us?
- Who will this "force" be made up of?
- Who is the real enemy?
- Does the president know of a coming event? If not, who builds an army against an unrecognized enemy?
- Why won't the media get off their butts and look into these radicals in the White House? And into this civilian army?

Day 3
- Why does the FCC have a diversity "czar"?
- Who is Mark Lloyd and how does he plan to "balance" the airwaves?
- Will he bring back the Fairness Doctrine or worse?
- Cass Sunstein once said he wants to balance the Internet; is that next?
- Will broadcasters who leave the airwaves be allowed to go to satellite or Internet without government regulation?
- Is there any place (that has a mass audience) where the government wont regulate free speech?
- Why does it seem every member of the Obama advisory team hates capitalism, unless those companies (like G.E.) are in bed with the administration?
If Lloyd has his way, stations who don't comply to the governments definition of the "public interest" will have to pay a massive fine — that helps support public broadcasting:
- What will be the definition of "public interest"?
- Who defines "public interest"?
- Why should it be balanced? Because it's public airwaves? (Well, there are public roads that go by my house and I don't count how many Republicans and Democrats are driving on them)

Watch Glenn Beck weekdays at 5p and 2a ET on the Fox News Channel...

Day 2 - Who is "surrounding" the President in the White House?
- Do any of the President's advisers have criminal records?
- Are the President's advisers working to better the country or their own ideals?
- Who are the anti-capitalists in Washington?
- What roles do they have in crafting bills?
- What was "STORM"? What happened to the founders, where are they now?
- What qualifications must one have to be a Presidential adviser?
- What is the difference between a community organizer and a community activist?
- Do the czars have power?
- Should a communist have the ear of the President of the United States?
- What role did the Apollo Alliance play in crafting bills?
- Does the President know the co-founder of the Weather Underground is a board member of the Apollo Alliance?
- How many people in the administration are connected to the movement for a democratic society?
- What role does George Soros play... CONSTITUTIONALLY?

Day 1 - Our unfunded liability for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is close to $100 trillion. Is there any way to pay for these programs without bankrupting America?
- We are in so much debt, why spend more borrowed money on cap-and-trade and healthcare programs before we stop the flow of red-ink?
- The stimulus package funneled billions of dollars to ACORN. How does giving billions of dollars to ACORN stimulate the economy?
- If it was so important for congress to pass the stimulus bill before they even had time to read it why has only a fraction of the stimulus money been spent 6 months later?
- Bush said he had to abandon free market principles in order to save them, how exactly does that work?
- Why won’t members of Congress read the bills before they vote on them?
- Why are citizens mocked and laughed at when they ask their congressman to read the bills before they vote on them?
- Was the cash-for-clunkers program meant to save the earth or the economy? Did it accomplish either?
- How did Van Jones, a self-proclaimed communist become a special advisor to the president?
- Did President Obama know of Van Jones’ radical political beliefs when he named him special advisor?
- The Apollo Alliance claimed credit for writing the stimulus bill—why was this group allowed to write any portion of this bill?
- If politicians aren’t writing the bills and aren’t reading the bills, do they have any idea what these 1000 page plus bills actually impose on the American people?
- If the ‘public option’ health care plan is so good why won’t politicians agree to have that as their plan?
- If town hall meetings are intended for the politicians to learn what’s on our mind—why do they spend so much time talking instead of listening?
- Politicians are refusing to attend town hall meetings complaining, without evidence, that they are scripted. Does that mean we shouldn’t come out and vote for you since every campaign stop, baby kiss and speech you give is scripted?
- Why would you want to overwhelm the system? - Is using the economic crises to rush legislation through congress what Rahm Emanuel meant when he talked about "not letting a crises go to waste"?
- What are the czars paid? What is the budget for their staffs/offices?

Glenn presents facts which, if false, could be disputed during a discussion of the above questions. With regards to the racist campaign holding Obama back, I would suggest that you check

1. Thomas Sowell

and

2. Walter E. Williams

who the liberals would be hard pressed to claim racism as a defense against their brilliant analysis and prolific writings and speeches dispelling myths of liberalism.

I wrote and thanked Glenn for putting himself at risk to present the picture of the Obama administration to the American voter. He is the only one doing it and it has not been discredited. Big statement about control of the news.


---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING YOUR BUTT ON THE LINE FOR AMERICA
From: littleguyusa@factsforreality.net
Date: Sat, September 5, 2009 10:59 pm
To: me@glennbeck.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

It was a huge risk (not your butt), but you were instrumental in giving us
the information and shining the light on the Alinsky Warriors of the AWFUL
Administration who won the battle for the Whitehouse. AWFUL = Alinsky
Warriors Fooling Unknowing Lemmings and they use deception to rally the
mooreons and WIIers.

Without you and your team's hard work, we would not be in as good of a
position to fight the battle which we knew we had to fight. RAPA = REAL
American Patriot Army has started using the Alinsky strategy, but replaced
illusion with TRUTH and the Soros types are not used to that. Deception
and ignorance are their tools and truth trumps it, but it takes someone
like you and your team to arm us.

You truly meet the need described by one of our forefathers - “If ever a
time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest
seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced
patriots to prevent its ruin.” -- Samuel Adams

Thank you for what you must endure and for having made the choices in your
earlier life to look at where you were and where you could go. Your
choices have affected not just your life, but the life of our country and its citizens.

Very sincerely and greatfully yours,
Ross Howell

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT HOW GULLIBLE SOME PEOPLE ARE - HOW DO WE SELL EACHOTHER ON PROGRAMS?

There are two very different schools of thought about how our country should be managed by our employees in Washington DC.

I have three sections in this post.

1. Conservatives with expertise ranging from law, economics, politics and entertainment who happen to be black - qualifications for a conservative do not include skin color - question boldly those who would say that opposition to a program based on facts is racist. I am open to question and input, but as of this moment, I feel that they have to be racist to make that claim and I explain why.

2. Quotes which point out that we are not in new times. Humans have recycled different methods of government throughout history and the book, The 5000 Year Leap, makes the point that America is unique and puts forth the authors consclusions as to what caused it. We started out communally in Jamestown and that did not work, even on a small community scale.

3. Definitions and an illustration in simple terms of what conservatives fear.

ONE:

How could you possibly classify these people as racist? They are conservatives with expertise ranging from law, economics, politics to entertainment and they happen to be black. Thomas, Sowell and Williams are brilliant and expert in their fields. They put forth the reason that liberals are bad for the black people of America. I offer links below to give an idea of what a thinking person with a conservative view and a wealth of knowledge who happens to be black thinks:

1. Justice Clarence Thomas speaking about perspective

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zssxz-oND7k

2. Thomas Sowell, Rose and Milton Friedman Senior Fellow of The Hoover Institution of Stanford University at Stanford, California 94305 who has written more than 40 books on a variety of subjects including economics and ethnicity

Economic Facts and Fallacies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYIgdFlnRnc

Home Page with links to different categories including economi

http://www.tsowell.com/

3. Walter E. Williams, Professor of Economics at George Mason University

Home Page

http://economics.gmu.edu/wew/index.html

with links to several subjects such as the unintended consequences of the War on Poverty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1r-r6iLBEI&feature=PlayList&p=8F6669EBA4AD450E&index=0&playnext=1

4. Greg Morton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhhkF3dqXR0

5. Alan Keyes, an American conservative political activist, author, former diplomat and campaigned for public offices

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlTgrMCxPg

6. AlfonZo Rachel speaking on his views about our country and his conservative view

http://www.youtube.com/user/machosauceproduction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acQluy7nymw&NR=1

It seems to me that a group which uses racism to market their program or oppose a proposed program must be racist because they believe racism is still a viable manipulative tool. They would not believe that if they were past racist views unless there was evidence of it among the population. I do not pick up racism in my interactions with people opposed to the massive government programs. I, rather, pick up a concern that this administration is either fiscally incompetent or they have an alterior motive. Maybe FDR was right, but that is not what his Secretary of the Treasury said after they tried stimulating the economy. The Republican Party proposed candidates like Janice Brown and Manuel Estrada who were attacked by Democrats. Was that because the Democratic Party is comprised of racists who divert attention from themselves by calling the opposition racist. I would look at them and say, "I think thou dost protest too much!"

TWO: These thoughts are about humans managing themselves by past thinkers

Frederic Bastiat - (1801 - 1850):

1. When under the pretext of fraternity, the legal code imposes mutual sacrifices on the citizens, human nature is not thereby abrogated. Everyone will then direct his efforts toward contributing little to, and taking much from, the common fund of sacrifices. Now, is it the most unfortunate who gains from this struggle? Certainly not, but rather the most influential and calculating.
2. Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
3. People are beginning to realize that the apparatus of government is costly. But what they do not know is that the burden falls inevitably on them.

Ayn Rand - (1905 - 1982) novelist and philosopher who left Russia and settled in America:

1. "It stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there's someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master."

2. "So you think that money is the root of all evil? Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can't exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?"

3. "The difference between a welfare state and a totalitarian state is a matter of time."

4. "The government was set to protect man from criminals, and the Constitution was written to protect man from the government. "

5. "Economic power is exercised by means of a positive, by offering men a reward, an incentive, a payment, a value; political power is exercised by means of a negative, by the threat of punishment, injury, imprisonment, destruction. The businessman's tool is values; the bureaucrat's tool is fear."

Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the Univeristy of Edinburgh, about the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.""A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.""From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.""The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.""During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;

2. From spiritual faith to great courage;

3. From courage to liberty;

4. From liberty to abundance;

5. From abundance to complacency;

6. From complacency to apathy;

7. From apathy to dependence;

8. From dependence back into bondage"

C. S. Lewis - (1898 - 1963) born in Belfast, Ireland

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

THREE:

My goal in this blog is to look at how we deal with issues using the healthcare reform issue as an example of our interactions. This is a very important issue which will determine where our country will go and where it will end up. I have people who believe differently than me and I know that they are too intellectually capable to be defined by my first definition listed below. I would, therefore, believe that one of us fits the second definition. There are groups of some Big Business people/some lobbyists/some Big Union people/some politicians and George Soros who is integral in the Democrat Party who work for their good with a disregard for our welfare. They keep us away from looking at them by instigating battles between groups such as the union worker and non union worker who both live in the same world and prosper or suffer as a result of the management of our country. We aren't paid well like a legislator regardless of the damage which we inflict on the system. The following definitions which have no relationship to party or belief system - only describing an intellectual deficiency and an unwillingness to challenge what they want to believe respectively:

MOOREON refers to an intellectual (thought and reason ability - not intelligence) deficiency and has nothing to do with ideology and beliefs. It rather has to do with an inability to determine whether something is true or false. Mooreon, a definition proposed on factsforreality.net, refers to a person who can see information challenging their beliefs, but does not have the intellectual capacity to process it and challenge that which supports the position that they choose even if their position is based on an illusion rather than what is real.

WIIer is a WILLFULLY IGNORANT INTELLECTUALThose who will keep to a narrow information channel which feeds them information, accurate and complete or not, to substantiate their desired point of view. A WIIer has the intellectual (thought and reason - not intelligence) ability, but is consciously unwilling to look at information which may challenge their desired point of view. A lot of us are going to online versions of foreign newspapers to find out what is happening in our country as well as other online sources.

This saying applies to all humans who fit the three sheeple category - The three sheeple:

Hear no other point of view

See no other point of view

Discuss no other point of view

I would suggest to anyone upset with the two definitions that you take some time for introspection because, in my opinion, you are dangerous to yourself , others and our country.

Obama is like the driver of an armored car with the National Economy in it headed at a high rate of speed for a cliff with some mooreons and WIIers yelling, "Just give him a chance!" and some people who studied Aesop's fables saying you will destroy the country doing this large of a program when you can't run smaller programs and keep FannieMae/FreddieMac solvent.

A final thought about a recent development in American politics is the apathetic American standing up and defending what they feel is an assault on the structure of America by using the strategy which allowed the assault to happen. Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals has now been adopted to a certain extent by the REAL American Patriot Army which has substituted TRUTH for deceipt and illusion.

As an example:

1. Campaigner Obama instructed the people to judge him by those with whom he associates and he named well respected people in different fields

2. President Obama built a group in excess of 30 czars who are not accountable to anyone but him and who hold radical views. Van Jones was arrested and put in jail, came out an avowed Communist and made statements about giving the wealth to the American people. The videos of his speeches and quotes presented by Glenn Beck who instructs his audiance to be peaceful and rational staying solid to the truth because the left wants an incident. He warns the viewer to carry cameras and record instances such as have happened at some of the rallys. Alinsky Rule #12 does not appear to be working any longer when you look at the ratings of the people attacked by the left. I think that the thinking people understand that the more effort that is dedicated to destroying a person, the more truth that that person represents. If that is true, I would steal a quote from a radical, "Ain't America Great?"

DO THEY THINK THAT THEY CAN KILL THE GOLDEN GOOSE AND KEEP GETTING THE GOLD?

The SEIU is running a full page ad in todays Long Beach Press Telegram headed "The Final Chapter" Broken Promises with the http://www.seiu1000.org/ website.



Arnold Schwarzenegger came into the governorship because California was headed for fiscal disaster and was obviously mismanaged. Tom McClintock has written a letter dated June 9, 2009 about what we need to do to fix what he had been warning Californians about for years.



Those who blame the recession for California’s budget crisis profoundly misunderstand the nature of that crisis. Even before California’s revenue began to shrink, the state government was running a chronic $10 billion deficit and piling up unprecedented debt. The recession is merely the catalyst; the underlying cause is rampant mismanagement of the state’s resources. California spends $43,000 to house a prisoner while many states spend just half that. California spends over $11,000 per pupil, but only a fraction of that ever reaches the classroom. California has one of the most expensive welfare systems in the country and yet one of the worst records of moving people off welfare. And that’s never seemed to bother California’s governor and legislature.



http://mcclintock.house.gov/2009/06/tough-love-for-california.shtml



This is no surprise to those who paid attention and cared more about the state's welfare than their own because they recognize that all is better by looking out for all rather than taking advantage of short term opportunities. The parasite will eventually kill the host unless the burden is limited.



Schwarzenegger took reform to the people of Califronia and the unions waged a very successful campaign to defeat what was good for California, but would head California in a more fiscally responsible direction. They defeated the super hero and kept California on course. We made good time on the wrong road and now they want an exemption from the consequences of their campaign. I have asked for input to show me why I am the mooreon or WIIer which I define on



http://factsforreality.net/



in my looking at a state which would be one of the largest economies in the world if it were a separate country and has had a real estate and dot com booms. The politicians grew the amount of government and rewarded the groups supporting them with unrealistic pay raises and opposed developing the states natural resources.


Peak Oil News and Message Boards post, "US government to loan Petrobras $10 billion
The U.S. government is prepared to provide up to $10 billion in loans to finance the development of massive hydrocarbon reserves off Brazil’s coast, a Brazilian official said Wednesday.
President Barack Obama’s national security adviser, Gen. James Jones, discussed the matter with officials this week during a visit to the South American country, Brazilian Planning Minister Paulo Bernardo da Silva told reporters." at

http://peakoil.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=50486

and Aug. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Billionaire investor George Soros bought an $811 million stake in Petroleo Brasileiro SA in the second quarter, making the Brazilian state-controlled oil company his investment fund's largest holding.
As of June 30, the stake in Petrobras, as the Rio de Janeiro-based oil producer is known, made up 22 percent of the $3.68 billion of stocks and American depositary receipts held by Soros Fund Management LLC, according to a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Petrobras has since slumped 28 percent.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aFHPjfeUvtl8


as opposed to Sarah Palin giving money back to state taxpayers and promoting the development of natural resources to help the state economy and create energy independance. Something to think about for a person capable of objective analysis. We might ask ourselves if California had adopted the type of proposal, a portion of which is quoted next,



"I’ve heard it said by some politicians that Alaska doesn’t have enough oil to make a difference. I can tell you honestly that we do have enough. And while consultants and experts debate the current energy crisis, Alaska is already preparing for its next role—providing American consumers with a safe and secure domestic source of crude oil and natural gas. In fact, if energy imports were curtailed completely, Alaska could provide our nation with seven years of crude oil independence and an eight-year supply of natural gas. These are numbers that reflect known and recoverable oil and gas deposits.
To repeat, Prudhoe Bay has produced 15 billion barrels of crude oil, and there’s more where that came from in ANWR, which is home to more than ten billion barrels of oil and nine trillion cubic feet of natural gas. I know this is a controversial issue. But most Americans do not realize that of the 20 million acres that make up ANWR, we are asking for the right to access just 2,000 of them—a mere 1/10,000th of the total area. Opening up just that sliver of ANWR—which would create a footprint smaller than the total area of Los Angeles International Airport—could produce enough oil (an estimated one million barrels per day) to ease America’s fuel crisis and greatly reduce our dependence on foreign oil." from



http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2008&month=09



as opposed to our current strategy, would we be better off?

JUST BECAUSE I AM PARANOID DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY ARE NOT OUT TO GET ME - MOOREON ALERT

Look at these links and ask yourself if we should think about the direction that our country is going.

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Check out the new Chairman of Diversity for the FCC chosen by Obama. Look at this and give me a comforting thought because this is out of another world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF2C235fD7o

Do we really think that Jones, the Diversity Czar, who admires Hugo Chavez taking over the media to succeed in his revolution after the first try was defeated. This is no longer a pot of frogs brought to a slow boil. The government agrees with Marr that the American people are stupid and is picking up speed on their program. Look at Alinsky's Rules for Radicals and tell me if you need any coffee to understand the relationship to what is happening. Big Business/Big Union/some Politicians/Soros has a group which is taking over America. We cannot be defeated militarily, but the LaLaLanders are such a internal defense weakspot that we are vulnerable. They who scream about privacy are looking the other way while we let Obama implement China type restrictions. What does it take to wake up the mooreons and WIIers???????

Watch the following clips and then enlighten me or get beside me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJj5rTNrOS0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD1X6u9GW-0

"Glenn Beck: Reasonable questions for unreasonable times";

August 27, 2009 - 19:25 ET
All this week we are asking questions; I may not have the answers, but power left unchecked can turn very ugly, very rapidly. So it's vital that we all question with boldness, hold to the truth and speak without fear.
You need to start asking questions:
Day 4
- Why do we need a civilian force?
- Who is posing a threat to us?
- Who will this "force" be made up of?
- Who is the real enemy?
- Does the president know of a coming event? If not, who builds an army against an unrecognized enemy?
- Why won't the media get off their butts and look into these radicals in the White House? And into this civilian army?
Day 3
- Why does the FCC have a diversity "czar"?
- Who is Mark Lloyd and how does he plan to "balance" the airwaves?
- Will he bring back the Fairness Doctrine or worse?
- Cass Sunstein once said he wants to balance the Internet; is that next?
- Will broadcasters who leave the airwaves be allowed to go to satellite or Internet without government regulation?
- Is there any place (that has a mass audience) where the government wont regulate free speech?
- Why does it seem every member of the Obama advisory team hates capitalism, unless those companies (like G.E.) are in bed with the administration?
If Lloyd has his way, stations who don't comply to the governments definition of the "public interest" will have to pay a massive fine — that helps support public broadcasting:
- What will be the definition of "public interest"?
- Who defines "public interest"?
- Why should it be balanced? Because it's public airwaves? (Well, there are public roads that go by my house and I don't count how many Republicans and Democrats are driving on them)
Watch Glenn Beck weekdays at 5p and 2a ET on the Fox News Channel...Day 2 - Who is "surrounding" the President in the White House? - Do any of the President's advisers have criminal records? - Are the President's advisers working to better the country or their own ideals? - Who are the anti-capitalists in Washington? - What roles do they have in crafting bills? - What was "STORM"? What happened to the founders, where are they now? - What qualifications must one have to be a Presidential adviser? - What is the difference between a community organizer and a community activist? - Do the czars have power? - Should a communist have the ear of the President of the United States? - What role did the Apollo Alliance play in crafting bills? - Does the President know the co-founder of the Weather Underground is a board member of the Apollo Alliance? - How many people in the administration are connected to the movement for a democratic society? - What role does George Soros play... CONSTITUTIONALLY?
Day 1 - Our unfunded liability for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is close to $100 trillion. Is there any way to pay for these programs without bankrupting America? - We are in so much debt, why spend more borrowed money on cap-and-trade and healthcare programs before we stop the flow of red-ink? - The stimulus package funneled billions of dollars to ACORN. How does giving billions of dollars to ACORN stimulate the economy? - If it was so important for congress to pass the stimulus bill before they even had time to read it why has only a fraction of the stimulus money been spent 6 months later? - Bush said he had to abandon free market principles in order to save them, how exactly does that work? - Why won’t members of Congress read the bills before they vote on them? - Why are citizens mocked and laughed at when they ask their congressman to read the bills before they vote on them? - Was the cash-for-clunkers program meant to save the earth or the economy? Did it accomplish either? - How did Van Jones, a self-proclaimed communist become a special advisor to the president? - Did President Obama know of Van Jones’ radical political beliefs when he named him special advisor? - The Apollo Alliance claimed credit for writing the stimulus bill—why was this group allowed to write any portion of this bill? - If politicians aren’t writing the bills and aren’t reading the bills, do they have any idea what these 1000 page plus bills actually impose on the American people? - If the ‘public option’ health care plan is so good why won’t politicians agree to have that as their plan? - If town hall meetings are intended for the politicians to learn what’s on our mind—why do they spend so much time talking instead of listening? - Politicians are refusing to attend town hall meetings complaining, without evidence, that they are scripted. Does that mean we shouldn’t come out and vote for you since every campaign stop, baby kiss and speech you give is scripted? - Why would you want to overwhelm the system? - Is using the economic crises to rush legislation through congress what Rahm Emanuel meant when he talked about "not letting a crises go to waste"? - What are the czars paid? What is the budget for their staffs/offices?

The above questions were copied from http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/29631/

WORLD WAR II POEM

There is a new importance for a poem describing the perils of apathy and calls to us to be vigilante for an analagous progression
In Germany:

They first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me — and by that time no one was left to speak up.

1787--
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.""A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.""From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.""The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.""During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;

2. From spiritual faith to great courage;

3. From courage to liberty;

4. From liberty to abundance;

5. From abundance to complacency;

6. From complacency to apathy;

7. From apathy to dependence;

8. From dependence back into bondage"

Please have a poster to promote the cause at the rallies -
PAY THE POLITICIANS WHAT THEY ARE WORTH -
http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=1674102050702533183&postID=2248282005329531527
Politicians get paid and receive benefits which are great regardless of how much damage that they do to our country. Our government is a prime example of what happens when you neglect competition and accountability. Why has this not been brought up before this time? Possibly becaue the voters have not paid attention

ALINSKY VERSES BECK - WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET CLOSER TO THE TRUTH

WHOSE SIDE IS TRUTH ON?

HOW CAN WE DETERMINE IT?

I have a suggeston. Pick up the brightest, most rational, logical person who you know who holds an opposing political ideology and agree to the following challenge.

The liberal choose the most informative program for liberals which they choose to watch for information and you both watch it and make notes regarding facts, perspective and ideology.

The both of you watch a Glenn Beck program during this week and make notes regarding facts, perspective and ideology.

I expect objective interaction to show that someone is lying and propagandizing and it is time that we recognize what is real. There are good intelligent people on both sides of this political battle and I have what I think is the explanation listed below.

DO WE CARE MORE ABOUT BEING RIGHT THAN WE DO ABOUT THE WELFARE OF THE BEST COUNTRY WHICH HAS EVER EXISTED? MY REQUEST IS A TEST OF THE VALIDITY OF YOUR ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I AM WILLING TO COME FROM NOT KNOWING BECAUSE I AM CONFIDENT IN MY VERY STRONG OPINIONS. THOSE OPINIONS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE IF I AM WRONG.

Because there is a campaign to incite the Politicall Correct Gullible Crusaders with morphed meanings of words and out of context information or outright lies and because we were warned by one of America's founders, Samuel Adams, “How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!”, I propose the following definitions to describe our nation's most dangerous enemy.

Thes definitions which have no relationship to party, belief system - only describing an intellectual deficiency and an unwillingness to challenge what they want to believe respectively:

MOOREON refers to an intellectual (thought and reason ability - not intelligence) deficiency and has nothing to do with ideology and beliefs. It rather has to do with an inability to determine whether something is true or false. Mooreon, a definition proposed on factsforreality.net, refers to a person who can see information challenging their beliefs, but does not have the intellectual capacity to process it and challenge that which supports the position that they choose even if their position is based on an illusion rather than what is real.

WIIer is a WILLFULLY IGNORANT INTELLECTUALThose who will keep to a narrow information channel which feeds them information, accurate and complete or not, to substantiate their desired point of view. A WIIer has the intellectual (thought and reason - not intelligence) ability, but is consciously unwilling to look at information which may challenge their desired point of view. A lot of us are going to online versions of foreign newspapers to find out what is happening in our country as well as other online sources.

This saying applies to all humans who fit the three sheeple category described below. The three sheeple:
Hear no other point of view
See no other point of view
Discuss no other point of view

I would suggest to anyone upset with the two definitions that you take some time for introspection because, in my opinion, you are dangerous to yourself , others and our country.

Rossabh
littleguyusa@factsforreality.net
http://factsforreality.blogspot.com
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Argue for the limitation and it is yours.




My purpose in my website is to have sections with facts

Only facts will be presented; not discussion.
The information displayed may be added to by submission of the fact or a correction and it's source.
This Web site will present facts specific to certain events and organizations such as:

Terrorist attacks on US assets, the president in power, the U.S. response, the perpetrators
Terrorist attacks on non-US assets-Achille Laura, Lockerbee
References to a translation of Osama bin Laden's fatwa
Thwarted terrorist attacks such as multiple planes from Philippines, Milenium LAX from Canadian border
Terrorist Web sites, top 5 or 10 most popular U.S. government officials to quote for anti-American quotes and the message in which the quote is used.
School system statistics such as cost per pupil and the ranking of those pupils
Democracies throughout history, the length of their existence and the cause of their demise.

and other suggested items.
I am a working person who does not yet know how I will do this, but hearing about teachers instructing students that the Iraq war is good or bad rather than teaching them to analyze the information as my 6th grade teacher taught me, scares me. She educated us that we will be exposed to propaganda from all directions and that we should sort out the good information rather than try to indoctrinate us in her beliefs. This paragraph is the result of a conversation several years ago which sounded like our children are indoctrinated rather than taught. Hearing about them being shown An Inconvenient Truth and not hearing about discussions or opposing points of view illustrates the level of indoctrination implemented in America. I would like to see us return to the days where we are taught to question information in any form from the opposition or people with whom we agree.
I had an 11th grade history teacher who said that you cannot get somewhere by being against something. You must have a goal and go for it.
I took a negotiating seminar a long time ago and was put in a role playing exercise. I was the lightweight on a team with a Texas business owner and his three presidents of his companies. We were the tire company and we faced off against the city council. Each side was given secret information and the 15 or 20 sets of business people/city council were instructed to reach a beneficial, negotiated result. A short way into the negotiations, things heated up and the head Texan told the city council that we employed the people who voted for them and if they wanted to maintain their positions, they would give in to our demands. I thought that our set did not succeed because the Texans were used to doing business in that matter. Not one of the sets achieved our goal. These business people, in a lab setting, given the setup to succeed were unsuccessful. Humans are lucky that we do as well as we do if this is a valid sample of human interaction.

OUR PRISON SYSTEM - Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein is quoted above and I feel like I am accurate in stating, "Doing more of what works, works." I heard it in a seminar on Life and Career Management and it is amazing how powerful some basic some principles are.

I received an email from a friend of mine that is worth some thought because it gives an alternative to the way most other people are managing the prison system. This is not a comparison of the different systems, but a call to think about what we are being told.

1. There are riots in prison with extensive damage and physical harm.

2. There is a court system which blames overcrowding for the poor quality of the life of the inmates.

3. There is a pending court order that this overcrowding must be solved or the prisoners released.

4. How much thought does it take to muse over the fact that if you play to the media and the court system and create as much chaos as you can to prove that the caring ones are right, you will not have to pay for your crime.

This line of reasoning is, in my opiniion, the same reasoning used to close GITMO. We have the best facility in the best location which operates painfully well (not perfect), but we are concerned about world opinion fed to us by MoveOn.orgers and MSNBC types. al Qaeda uses the information for their recruiting propaganda. The alternative is, "Let's move the detainees to American soil where we can expose our civilians to a spectacular al Qaeda operation made for TV and where these poor abused victims can plead for fair treatment while enjoying their confinement and still presenting al Queda with propanda. I am puzzled, but I did come up with the explanation. There are both gullible fools and intelligent people whom I define at http://factsforreality.net/
as mooreons and WIIers respectively. I have not heard a better explanation and I remain open to a challenge. It just does not make sense to me, but a negotiating class lab enlightened me that humans will work to their own detriment.

I believe that there is a movement playing on Roger Dawson, an Englishman teaching negotiation, talking about the most powerful negotiating gambit to use against an American is, "What do you think is fair?"

The following quote describes an emotional tool which is now used for more than money. "A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money." "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." George Bernard Shaw (1944)

Please excuse the unclean formatting - I need to get to work, but I checked my email and felt we need to pay attention to how we analyze and implement what we do in this world. We really can go through life without thinking about anything if we want. We only have to think about and protect that which is important to us, like our country's place in the world and fiscal well being.


SHERIFF JOE IS AT IT AGAIN! Oh, there's MUCH more to know about Sheriff Joe! Maricopa County was spending approx. $18 million> > dollars a year on stray animals, like cats and dogs. Sheriff Joe> > offered to take the department over, and the County Supervisors said> > okay.�> >> > The animal shelters are now all> > staffed and operated by prisoners. They feed and care for the> > strays. Every animal in his care is taken out and walked twice> > daily. He now has prisoners who are experts in animal nutrition> > and behavior. They give great classes for anyone who'd like to> > adopt an animal. He has literally taken stray dogs off the> > street, given them to the care of prisoners, and had them place> > in dog shows.�> >> > The best part? His budget for the> > entire department is now under $3 million. Teresa and I adopted> > a Weimaraner from a Maricopa County shelter two years ago. He was neutered,> > and current on all shots, in great health, and even had a> > microchip inserted the day we got him. Cost us> > $78.�> >> > The prisoners get the benefit of> > about $0.28 an hour for working, but most would work for free,> > just to be out of their cells for the day. Most of his budget is> > for utilities, building maintenance, etc. He pays the prisoners> > out of the fees collected for adopted> > animals.�> >> > I have long wondered when the rest> > of the country would take a look at the way he runs the jail> > system, and copy some of his ideas. He has a huge farm, donated> > to the county years ago, where inmates can work, and they grow> > most of their own fresh vegetables and food, doing all the work> > and harvesting by hand.�> >> > He has a pretty good sized hog farm,> > which provides meat, and fertilizer. It fertilizes the Christmas> > tree nursery, where prisoners work, and you can buy a living> > Christmas tree for $6 - $8 for the Holidays, and plant it later.> > We have six trees in our yard from the> > Prison.�> >> > Yup, he was reelected last year with> > 83% of the vote.�> > Now he's in trouble with the ACLU again. He> > painted all his buses and vehicles with a mural, that has a> > special hotline phone number painted on it, where you can call> > and report suspected illegal aliens. Immigrations and Customs> > Enforcement wasn't doing enough in his eyes, so he had 40> > deputies trained specifically for enforcing immigration laws,> > started up his hotline, and bought 4 new buses just for hauling> > folks back to the border. He's kind of a 'Git-R Dun' kind of> > Sheriff.�> >> > TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH> > JOE ARPAIO�> >> > HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY> > SHERIFF�> >> > AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER> > AND OVER�> > THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS> > WHY:�> >> > Sheriff Joe Arpaio (In Arizona ) who> > created the ' Tent City Jail':�> > He has jail meals down to 40> > cents a serving and charges the inmates for> > them.�> >> > He stopped smoking and porno> > magazines in the jails. Took away their weights Cut off all but> > 'G' movies.�> >> > He started chain gangs so the> > inmates could do free work on county and city> > projects.�> >> > Then He Started Chain Gangs For> > Women So He Wouldn't Get�> > Sued For> > Discrimination.�> >> > He took away cable TV Until he found> > out there was A Federal Court Order that Required Cable TV For> > Jails So He Hooked Up The Cable TV Again Only Let In The Disney> > Channel And The Weather Channel.�> >> > When asked why the> > weather channel He Replied, So They Will Know How Hot It's Gonna> > Be While They Are Working�> > ON My Chain> > Gangs.�> >> > He Cut Off Coffee Since It Has Zero> > Nutritional Value.�> >> > When the inmates complained, he told> > them, 'This Isn't The Ritz/Carlton......If You Don't Like It,> > Don't Come Back.'�> >> >> > More On The Arizona> > Sheriff:�> >> > With Temperatures Being Even Hotter> > Than Usual In Phoenix (116 Degrees Just Set A New Record), the> > Associated Press Reports:�> > About 2,000 Inmates Living In A> > Barbed-Wire-Surrounded Tent Encampment At The Maricopa County> > Jail Have Been Given Permission To Strip Down To Their> > Government-Issued�> > Pink Boxer Shorts.�> >> > On Wednesday, hundreds> > of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds> > or chatted in the tents, which reached�> > 138 Degrees Inside> > The Week Before.�> >> > Many Were Also Swathed In Wet, Pink> > Towels As Sweat Collected On Their Chests And Dripped Down To> > Their PINK SOCKS.�> >> > 'It Feels Like We Are In A Furnace,'> > Said James Zanzot, An Inmate Who Has Lived In The TENTS for 1> > year. 'It's Inhumane.'�> >> > Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff> > who created the tent city and long ago started making his> > prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit> > sympathetic. He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates:> > 'It's 120 Degrees In Iraq And Our Soldiers Are Living In Tents> > Too, And They Have To Wear Full Battle Gear,�> > But They Didn't> > Commit Any Crimes,So Shut Your Mouths!'�> >> > Way To Go,> > Sheriff!�> >> > Maybe if all prisons were like this> > one there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders.> > Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in> > luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and> > commit another crime so they can get back in to live on> > taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have> > for themselves.�> >> > If you agree, pass this on.. If not,> > just delete> > it.> >